Old Forge Trail Report
I have been riding Old Forge for over 30 years and have lived here for over 20. There are times when things just don’t come together and this weekend was one of them. Trust me on this one. If the groomers could of bin out and productive they would of bin out. I don’t like having to listen to people complain about the trail conditions and trust me the Town officals like it even less. As I know first hand that the suppervisor has gotten many calls today about it. There are so many things to think about when you step back and look at the big picture. I am going to point out a few things from todays blog. Please don’t feel that I am pointing fingers…..just think about the big picture.
“Sat. night at the tail end of the storm my girlfriend pulled into town. I picked her up at 7PM downtown as her car can’t make it up to the house I stay in on Joy Tract Road 1/2 mile up going towards McCauley.” Now I don’t know if this means the car couldn’t make it up the road or in the driveway. Either way the road conditions from the wet snow we got was not pretty to drive on. The snow was so wet that it turned to wet like ice as soon as you drove over it. Another person wrote in about the road in Qkara Lakes that it was in good shape. The first question I would have was it the section that is paved or the dirt road part. As that makes a big difference in how long the base stays on the road. The second question I would have to ask yourself is how many sleds do you think go that way now that trail 6 has been rerouted. The reason I ask this is that road doesn’t have thousands of carbide tipped ice picks chewing it up. There are many things that change the conditions of the roads and trails all the time and this weekends very wet snow was one of them.
Ok enough of the going back and forth and pointing fingers. It’s not going to help anything besides get people upset. Trust me on Old Forge does want poeple to come and ride. But there are times when things aren’t the best and it’s beyond all of our control. I answered a few more of the questions in the video and I can tell you the groomers are out tonight. It’s good enough for me that I am headed out of here very soon to go riding myself. Big Moose Station here I come!
Steve,
As I mentioned but didn’t get into all the details: her car simply wouldn’t make it into or back out of the long driveway in the winer period much less after a foot of snow. Not worth the risk! The roads are no problem at all it’s just our long driveway off the PAVED road just 1/3-1/2 mile up from the very bottom (Railroad and Park Avenue). I agree and mentioned it’s not a heavy sled traffic road and lot’s of people up here I’m sure prefer it to be plowed down because it’s where visitors to McCauley drive on, safer and they’re rich non-riders (funny but mostly true). This road is not needed for most riders but the point is they plowed the crap out of it TWICE within 2 hours of the storm ending…..great job guys OR what the heck, leave a strip as it WAS holding up at that point. They plow ALL the roads like this and that should not be the case!
I think we got off track here as well. The trails - well I for one trust they know what they’re doing and don’t question that really although I’m sure as any “business” there’s a bottom line there. I just go out and look for the better trails and try to do as much advanced scouting as possible like many of you. BUT the road thing - no excuses and total BS in my opinion. I’ve even watched them break down the sides during the week (no not on corners or safety reasons) for no reason at all except for something to do?? They clearly are making it worse and not helping and not making any effort for us riders. Steve must not agree, know others facts or have to shhhh because A) he’s a nice guy and B) wouldn’t (and shouldn’t) want to upset the people he see’s day in and day out. I think you should all stop crying about the trails and focus on the issue that started all this. Steve M all you’re doing is throwing out judgmental counter points to everything and anything. That’s what pisses people of and makes nice people get mean and nasty or sometimes violent…lol
Anyone wanna go riding tomorrow night or Wed, AM???? Looks like temps may dip and I would expect the groomers to have been out and covered everything by than right??? At 7:46PM the visitors center cam still shows whoops…….not a good sign
Peace, Tim
Comment by Ticket Tim — March 1, 2010 @ 8:51 pm
go back to the previous posts. Jack has a great idea to ease the recent tension among bloggers…give it a try.
Comment by scottyb — March 1, 2010 @ 9:05 pm
For all out there — I was in Old Forge for the entire week — and I RODE –was it the best –NO –but It wasn’t the worst either — I am GLAD that I went –I have no regrets with my decision to go — I will say that I understand that IF the groomers had gone out that they would have done more DAMAGE than good –have some faith in the workers — they groom more than the rest of us combined — as for the roads –if they leave it the way you want ==the first person that gets into an accident will sue the pants off the town — so they cant make everyone happy — I will leave you with this — would you have rather been home sitting on your couch not riding or up here putting some miles on — your choice — no one can make that decision for you — so make the choice and live with it !! See YOU on the TRAILS — By the way Steve — Nice seeing you again — Keep up the GOOD work — see you at sno fest !!
Comment by Jay J Zintel — March 1, 2010 @ 9:15 pm
the ultimate day in the north country
Comment by Jack E. Monker — March 1, 2010 @ 9:52 pm
-20 7am, muffin patch 8am,leave for tug hill, flat rock, montague, tuggers, tug hill inn, sportsman, high market, timberview, pine tree, back to old forge 7pm, wings slickers 8pm, northwoods to watch crazy people sing, 12am catch some zzzs
Comment by Jack E. Monker — March 1, 2010 @ 10:03 pm
tim i live at the top of joy tract year round.scotty talked about stress? how about three sleds sitting in the garage 70 feet from the road and plow trucks up and down all day.starting at 530 am. bare all day.no way out.pals of mine 4 on indian trail and three next to me.we have had it. no more trail permits no way to the trails. after 31 years of buying then.
Comment by john ruconich — March 1, 2010 @ 10:33 pm
hey guys you all are are starting to sound like congress.IT’S THE WEATHER!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by jerry — March 1, 2010 @ 11:11 pm
Just want to clarify…I have NO issue with not grooming mush… I do have an issue with Sunday morning plowing Saturdays 10″ snow off the interior roads near The Van Auken’s Inne to bare pavement… and then applying sand & salt by 7am.
I’m talking BARE PAVEMENT ON FLAT ROADS.
Sorry if anyone is offended and I hope the people that need to hear the permit purchasers voices will ,and we can enjoy the rest of the season.
Comment by StrokerFour — March 2, 2010 @ 1:10 am
If you guys don’t like the way the town does the roads and trails don’t buy a permit next year, I have bought 4 permits a year for over 10 years. last year I swore not again, well next year I am following through with it, I can ride Tugg hill and Booneville for free and I know they don’t groom as well as Old Forge use to, but this year they groomed alot more. I know Booneville and Tugg hill appreciate our business. Maybe if more stopped buying permits next year then the town would get the message. Just my opinion. See ya on Tugg hill
Comment by Sneakie Snake — March 2, 2010 @ 7:43 am
Hey Scotty; Let me try to explain my recent blogs.
I don’t sit behind a computer and make comments, or complain about items that bother me. I goright to the sorce and try to get an answer. It does no good to just sit here and complain, without any type
of follow up to the town,. Yes the trails were not good this week end, but I did know what they could be like, because I read alot of report on how the snow is wet, and that it would not be good for grooming until it dried up and got cold again, so I knew what the trails could be like. So you make the best of what you have. If Tony had said that he tried to talk with the town and got alot of BS. well then, he would have every right to be upset, and then he would have the right to voice his concerns.
But with out trying to get answers from the proper people, and to come on here and complain, it does nothing, Just my 2 cents.
Comment by steve m. — March 2, 2010 @ 7:54 am
Last year i road 4,022 miles in the old forge area. IT WAS A GREAT YEAR!!! This year i road 3,960 miles also a great year BUT a bumpy one due to the fact that the groomers could not groom all the time cause the temps were to warm. POINT IS you could have ridden this year and NOT spent the time complaning. NO COMPLAINTS HERE!!! IT IS WHAT IT IS NO ONE CAN CONTROL THE WEATHER I didn”t seem to have a problem riding this year so its your own fault if you didnt get all the riding in that you could have. Steve great site and tell it like it is!!!
Comment by joe — March 2, 2010 @ 9:14 am
I just want add my 2cents. we live in NJ. 6 hours from forge. I drove up THURSDAY night. during the storm. Was in 4wd from Albany. Now coming up 28 there was 1 foot of hard pack and ice. Its about 11pm. After I checked in. signing my $300 + bill. spending $75 in diesel. We went to bed with High hopes. Woke up to BARE rodes. Now what happens over night. I but 2 permits every year. We stay aprox 6-8 days. a year. ride aprox 1000 miles. Spend more than $3000 in the town area of Forge. So we rode Friday and left. The town should look at this.
Comment by Art — March 2, 2010 @ 9:20 am
BLA!!! BLA!!! BLA!!!!! BLA!!!!!!!! BLA!!!!!!!!! Hey ART read the last 2 blogs. Have you ever heard the early bird gets the worm looks like you waited to long no ones fault but yours. I also live in Jersey and spend the same money you do its the nature of the sport. Mabe you should try kite flying at the jersey shore its alot closer and cheaper to. The only thing is they DON’T ALWAYS HAVE WINDY DAYS so check the weather and you can complain to the town that there is not enough wind. LOL!!!!
Comment by joe — March 2, 2010 @ 9:34 am
ONE MORE THING!!! You chose the sport NOT THE TOWN all they can do is HELP YOU ENJOY IT!!! Just be thankfull there is an Old forge.YOU GET WHAT YOU GET AND YOU DON”T GET UPSET!!!!!!! Ok i feel better now i promise i will calm down sorry steve
Comment by joe — March 2, 2010 @ 9:42 am
WOW!!!! Such negativity lately. C’mon guys, let’s think about this……We’ve all seen the trails in fantastic condition…..and we’ve all seen them in bad to crap conditions…..why do we think it’s necessary to voice our opinions about who we think is to blame for trail conditions? Why do we think it’s necessary to complain about it? Don’t we have better things to do with out time????? I for one, have a 5+ hour drive up to Old Forge, and if I think I”m not going to get a good ride, I simply don’t go, it’s as simple as that. I choose to purchase my permits for 4 sleds every year because I love Old Forge, always have, always will. Yes, it sucks when the conditions aren’t the best, but it doesn’t mean I’m going to write it off. If things don’t change, then it’s not the fault of the groomers, the town, or anyone else….it’s mother nature, there isn’t a damn thing we can do about it. So if you wanna get pissed off then so be it, but don’t drag everyone else down with you, don’t like it don’t come, and don’t bitch about it. It is what it is……..GOOD GRIEF!!!!!
Comment by celeste — March 2, 2010 @ 9:50 am
NICE CELESTE!!!!!!
Comment by joe — March 2, 2010 @ 9:55 am
NEWS FLASH! everybody knows Old Forge is having a snowless winter but people keep going only to be dissapointed and then come on this blog to bitch,here is some pointers, never ever plan and book your trip weeks in advance, dont stay in town,dont plan on riding the roads, book your reservations the day before you leave that way you know what to expect the time your there, stay where you dont need the roads to get to the trails
Comment by Jack E. Monker — March 2, 2010 @ 10:04 am
Amen Sister! We drive 5.5-6 hours, purchase 4 permits per year, join the local clubs, etc. We made it up almost every weekend this year and made the most of it. I can tell you from the 8″ of snow we got in the Phila area last week, that it melted w/in several hours from when the snow stopped. Warm conditions/warm roads = melting snow. If the guys haven’t figured it out, I’ll point this out as well- it’s 2 weeks from SPRING. This time last year the roads were bare as well. I’m also in agreement that if you don’t like it, don’t go. No one is making you drive up. Lastly, Keep up the good work Steve- your site is much more informative than Absolute Snowmobile.
Comment by louise — March 2, 2010 @ 10:11 am
Joe. we all pay for trail permits we all can vent and complain when we want.. I probably paid more in taxes this year then your familty makes . SHUT your Mouth JOE . I live in Jackson Jersey come visit me tonight Hot shot!!
Comment by JOEHATER — March 2, 2010 @ 10:13 am
Remember Permit Buyers are the Only Reason OldForge is what it is.. They better learn to respect the Visitors or the motels. bars and everything will be closed due to tuff times…
If the Permits dont sell the town folds
Comment by Millionare Man — March 2, 2010 @ 10:15 am
a little story about the snow content of last storm,the snow acted a little strange if you noticed.it seemed to melt or compress as it hit the ground, or disappearing as it fell. well , i have a friend at NOAA and i questioned the weird things the snow was doing{i also talked about on this blog), well as it turns out the snow where ever it landed had a higher SALT content than normal, because it wiggled of the coast longer, so even if the plow drivers left the usual amout after a run,it would disappear faster. if you have a hard time believing this call your local collage, and no ,it has nothing to do with climate change its very normal. sometimes you can accually taste it. don’t try the yellow stuff though
Comment by jerry — March 2, 2010 @ 10:20 am
Play nice boys and girls or I will start deleting posts.
Now that is an interesting thing to think about Jerry!
That goes in hand with how lake effect snow is light as it can’t pick up alot of moisture.
Steve
Comment by Steve — March 2, 2010 @ 10:55 am
Jerry, good info on the snow. When I was up there last weekend I wondered why it left the roads so quick. Since it was from a noreaster never thought about it picling up the minerals off the ocean. Steve M., if the town officials in O.F. are astute they ARE reading this, so indirectly they would be getting the comments. Again you make baseless assumptions. I have spoken with town officials in the past and find the thinking to be that’s the way it’s always been, that’s the way it will be. Yes, the weather is a big factor, but not the only factor. They have been taking heat not just this year on conditions and trail reports. I haven’t seen anything change in response. Guess we’ll have to wait for nature to fix it with a return to more normal winter weather. I think people like Scotty B caused this by seeding the clouds down in PA to drop the snow there, or maybe even have a big stealth blimp with fans redirecting the storm fronts.
Comment by Tony — March 2, 2010 @ 10:56 am
Forgot to mention Steve M. comments on the drag video left on yesterdays blog. NO, not that kind of drag, this is a family friendly blog.
Comment by Tony — March 2, 2010 @ 11:01 am
Nonsense! the groomers are out now but couldn’t go out over the weekend when the most people are out. funny how the groomers were out in Moose river plains and in boonville , not too mention in other areas of the state. if it’s such a problem with the snow balling up then why was that groomer out? no matter what the temps the trails should be being groomed when the traffic is the highest, which is one of the reasons I continue to buy an Old forge permit. I find it all BS - if they were unsuccessful at pulling a drag then they should have been out dropping their blades and rolling the moisture out of the snow. I saw a few of the Old forge groomers in MRP for the breast cancer ride and the trail was sweet when they went though. keep making excuses, what will you excuses be when your permits drop off next year - you’ve got the snow do something with it besides plowing it off the roads. I have been reading this board for awhile and have always thought the reports must be accurate until I spent a week in your motel- although you didn’t actually lie , you certainly didn’t present the clear truth, love the “snow in the forcast all week” yeah 10% chance. by far the worst conditions I have ever seen for Old Forge in Feb. no worries though you won’t ever have to worry about seeing me in your motel or on your trails this system wasn’t worth the permit fee, I’ll continue to support the local clubs in the Adirondaks and for you out of staters - keep going at least the rest of us will know what area to avoid!
Comment by Paul — March 2, 2010 @ 11:09 am
Sorry Steve didn’t mean to curse…and for you Paul,
!!#%Q!#$!@ ***
Comment by celeste — March 2, 2010 @ 11:29 am
There’s something about a positive attitude that makes things look much better than those crank bag glasses some of these folks have on. You have to make the best of it, and no one can change the weather. I love it in Old Forge and I wouldn’t change a thing. So, if you don’t like it - STAY HOME the rest of us won’t miss you.
Comment by louise — March 2, 2010 @ 11:44 am
RIGHT ON SISTER…..
Comment by celeste — March 2, 2010 @ 11:59 am
you can be as positive as you want, the Old forge buisness owners are the ones suffering, several people have read the posts across several sites and every place that offers lodging had vacancy this previous weekend, and the only reason there were as many poeple as there were is, there was a benefit ride for breast cancer. The weather is what it is and no one has yet to complain about it. what we are all complaining about is the poor snow managment this previous weekend!!! So if you don’t care what the snow conditions are then go! and the rest of you from out of state or in state go and turn that snowmobile community into something it isn’t. the truth is you won’t go. and then you won’t spend your money and then the town ends up like every other adirondak town. this is a permit system, people pay for a permit to enjoy good to great snowmobile conditions, when they are not there people complain. otherwise no one would pay for a permit to ride the same thing anywhere else in the state. These are experienced groomer operators I know for a fact that the trail conditions could have been improved with some maintenence there are other options then just a drag! When I am in another part of the state which does not require a permit I wouldn’t be upset. For the person who is thinking maybe I should go up there and groom I’d love to actually get paid to do it as I currently do it for Free!
Comment by Paul — March 2, 2010 @ 12:16 pm
Ok they say it is too warm to groom. What about when snofest is in town? They have no problem grooming then reguardless of the temps. Also if they are having issues with the snow balling up in the drag, why can’t they leave the drag at the barn and just use the plow blade to knock the larger bumps down (like the ski slopes)?? You won’t get table top conditions but you will at least make it a safer ride for everyone (IE: trail 2 and the constant 3ft+ bumps on sat’).
Comment by AXR — March 2, 2010 @ 12:36 pm
OMG..Now it’s sunny out on the snow cam…who can we call to make the sun go away. comon..there has to be some town official who controls the sun…I paid for clouds …not sun…sheeeeees…
Comment by scottyb — March 2, 2010 @ 12:40 pm
I love old forge and take the good with the bad…its the way the Universe unfolds people, thats just the way it is…lets focus on more important things like GOV PATTERSON ROBBING NYSSA SNOWMOBILE FUND OF $1 MILLION FOR HIS “OTHER NEEDED AREAS”..horse crap…last year he did the same thing and promised to pay it back. NOT YET HE HASNT. So write your congressman and senator in Albany and let your voices be heard!
Comment by crayzalr1 — March 2, 2010 @ 1:03 pm
Paul and axr you beat me to my next point on grooming. Leave the drag at the barn and use the front end to top the moguls. Those blades on the front have about 9 or more configurations and could have pulled snow out of the corners and reduced the moguls (bigger then bumps). Don’t knock Steve on the forecast, he’s just relaying what the weather sites have, and the weather is fickle there. A day with flurries can drop a good dump out of no where, while other times the good dumps don’t pan out. I don’t ever remember Steve getting our hopes up with the 3 foot predictions that some people drum up and don’t come. Why shouldn’t he see the glass half full if snow is in the forecast?
Comment by Tony — March 2, 2010 @ 1:12 pm
For the past 10 years nothing in OLDFORGE has changed except more people complaining IF you dont like the cond. DONT COME!!! IF you dont want to mess up your new sled then RENT one to ride WE just had a bad year As for plowing the roads bare ALL winter long every year thank your local residents THey are the ones complaining and prob dont own or care about snowmobiles because they have their fancy house on the lakes and do not want to be bothered by us IF you dont believe me check out the local restrictions on pwc hours on the lakes they even want their quiet time in the summer
Comment by Viper Tim — March 2, 2010 @ 1:23 pm
I agree with Crayzalr1…We all need to write or call, or you can really kiss your $$ goodbye!
And Tony’s right as well. Steve does the best he can w/the info provided and Oh lets not forget 20-30 years experience. You never know what the snow gods will give. The snow last weekend came in bands, you’d know if you did ride. One area would have 2 feet, the next 6 inches. My husband made it up to Saranac and ran out of snow, so the next day he went toward Piseco did a huge loop and found plenty of snow in some areas with some low/bad spots in between. All things considered we should be happy they’ve done what they have with 1/2 the amount of normal snow fall. sheees is right scottyb.
Comment by louise — March 2, 2010 @ 1:42 pm
my letter was sent the day it was announced as was several other letters reguarding various UMP’s within the park. again no one has complained about the weather, just what is being done about the trails heres a perfect example look at the web cam , yes the sun is out, and the trail is brown but what is that to the left of the trail, oh my a large snow bank just sitting the beggin to be flatened out. Crayzalr1, it’s good that you love Old forge but you alone can’t keep the town running! the terrible conditions this past weekend will change peoples minds about coming up next weekend I have already canceled reservations for two rooms and I am sure many others will do the same. Old forge is providing a service for a fee when the service is not provided everyone who paid for it has the right to complain, they also have the right to not purchase ths service again. So Louise & Celeste I am sure someone appreciates your positive comments, but the fact is women make up 15% of the snomobiling community and I am sure if you did ride this past weekend you didn’t go far, but my guess is you didn’t ride at all. - and I am not picking on anyone for any forecasts, when I was there comments like “the trails aren’t perfect” are misleading - they are never perfect , but they were certainly terrible the roads were all pavement but the reports was the roads are rideable - sure true, but the fact that there was no snow on them should have been mentioned.
Comment by Paul — March 2, 2010 @ 2:22 pm
Scottyb, you’re too much. lol
Comment by celeste — March 2, 2010 @ 2:29 pm
Viper Tim , so I take it you count on revenue from snowmobilers to pay your bills? didn’t think so -
where do you get off telling people not to go there? again you alone cannot support the town not even with the help of Crayzalr1.
Old Forge has a population of 1,500 people and I would bet those big fancy lake houses only house people for a short time each year, most are owned by Citidiots! the locals depend on snowmobilers to keep them alive throughout the winter, and enjoy snowmobiling themselves. so to be clear it isn’t the locals complaining they can’t drive to there lake houses, it’s the Citidots!
Comment by Paul — March 2, 2010 @ 2:40 pm
Paul I’d like to know when you stayed here as I can’t figure out who you are. Steve
Comment by Steve — March 2, 2010 @ 2:42 pm
LOOKS LIKE THE FAT LADY IS STARTING TO SING
Comment by Viper Tim — March 2, 2010 @ 2:46 pm
I am in Oldforge all week.. Boyz its going QUICK!!
Comment by Millionare Man — March 2, 2010 @ 3:31 pm
Feb 8th through the 12th
Comment by Paul — March 2, 2010 @ 3:35 pm
Steve
First of I want to thank you for all of your text messages,Videos and blogs for the year. Although I never stayed at your place this year you have become my Old Forge information station. Perhaps if we heard from the Town as much as we here from you this kind of crap flying around would be a lot smaller. I dont feel at all sorry for the Town Of Webb as it pertains to complaints. When you take someones money for providing something be prepared to stick it out and take it when things arent working out. As a business owner you know this. Thanks Again!!!
Comment by WRoosa — March 2, 2010 @ 3:36 pm
Wow Paul- and others… if you’re all that po’d about where your $80 bucks went, (even if x4 or 5) then maybe you should pick a different hobby. I understand your beef about the trail conditions not the weather, but could you do better with 1/2 the snowfall that normally hits the area? If you’ve been riding the area for many years, as I have been, you’d know that the trails are really good considering what they’ve had to work with.
As for the lake folks… happen to be one of them, started out for investment purposes, and its been one the best things we’ve done. We’ve met more down to earth honest nice people that way. And we’re hardly “cidiots”. So, watch the generalizations.
Lastly, if you think snowmobiling carries the town you should think again. Old Forge is a great vacation spot with a very small full time population. They cater to the snowmobiliers in winter, the summer folks, the fall leaf peepers and hunters too. We all contribute by patronizing the local businesses, not by whining on a blog.
Comment by louise — March 2, 2010 @ 3:44 pm
Maybe “Paul” is a big man behind the keyboard, blowing off and not necessarily telling the truth. I’d like to know where you get your “facts” from Paul…. like Louise, I’ve been snowmobiling in Old Forge for years as well, along with my husband, 2 sons, and numerous other families who spend most of our winter weekends, and vacations there. And by the way, between the motel, food, gas, etc, we leave a minimum of $1K there every time, and that’s just my immediate family, for a weekend.
Comment by celeste — March 2, 2010 @ 3:54 pm
Wow i have to say this is getting really nasty people if you want to come to old forge and ride then come if not stay home that is your choice but dont complain about trails roads and other condtions that steve has no control over he is honest on his blog and reports if its good he says come if not stay home the choice is yours but dont blame some one eles if you decide to come and conditions are not perfect Happy Birthday Steve have a good one
Comment by Valerie — March 2, 2010 @ 4:27 pm
WOW, Steve, I’m intrigued, appalled and disappointed at so much hostility!!! I know your blog was not begun to be such a sounding board. I for one will be glad when the season is over. I still think you work very hard and deserve a BIG HURRAH FROM ALL OF US FOR WHAT YOU PROVIDE US!! Keep up the good work!
Comment by Jenny Keiper — March 2, 2010 @ 4:52 pm
well said, Jenny and Wroosa
Comment by steve m. — March 2, 2010 @ 4:57 pm
The roads are plowed too low and too often! If there is salt in the snow coming down then why is the town adding to that!!!!
Comment by Sam G — March 2, 2010 @ 5:33 pm
I have to say, yeah for the level headed girls!
Enjoy Old Forge for what it is and what it has to offer or stay home. Thanks Steve for the info you provide, supporting all of the webcams, etc.
Comment by melissa — March 2, 2010 @ 5:43 pm
If it wasn’t for this site, alot of us wouldn’t know anything about conditions, I believe it was in another video, prior, if you’re looking to go where you want and with the best conditions, stay home, how much more truthful can you get.
Hurray to Steve for his honesty……..I for one would miss this site if it wasn’t here.
Comment by celeste — March 2, 2010 @ 5:44 pm
All you complainers have nothing to bitch at, at least you have been able to ride. I myself have been coming up ther for the last 8 years and yes have seen it worse, but this year I cut my left hand off in Dec. and never dreamed I would be able to ride this year. But the great snow they had in the begining of the year allowed them to maintain the trails through these tough times and gave all of you complainers at least some place to RIDE!!! And I did get out on the trails this past week, did just 65 miles on Friday and all in all if you stayed off trail 1 or 5 you found some good riding, tracks where still covered so you have a little trouble getting around town, well once again DEAL WITH IT!!! And all you people who say I’ll go to Canda well go, they didn’t have that great a snow year either!!!
Comment by David — March 2, 2010 @ 5:55 pm
Steve
Keep up the great work with the web site
Comment by David — March 2, 2010 @ 5:56 pm
just wondering if all you complainers that have your panties in a bunch have ever rode tug hill on the weekend, I would say not, you dont know what torn up is
Comment by Jack E. Monker — March 2, 2010 @ 6:33 pm
True Jack…very true…
Comment by scottyb — March 2, 2010 @ 6:43 pm
we don’t buy a permit to ride Tug hill
Comment by Paul — March 2, 2010 @ 6:45 pm
Jack E (& scotty) very untrue. As I said on a previous day on Sunday I did 125 mile loop that included the tug hill. The only really bad part in the tug was coming down to route 12 to cross over and up to Brantingham. The rest was pretty good with some bumpy spots and some thin roads here and there. My point has been that I saw grooming in all the other trail systems and it did help even though it was soft and the sun was out some. Hit O.F. Sunday evening and not one groomer out. I understand the problems with grooming in those conditions, but what would be worse for the town sending a groomer (minus drag?) to show they are trying or weather the poop storm it has turned into. And how many more people that don’t join the blog feel that way. If someone came to Steve’s motel and found he decided not to include linens and blankets and charge the same price they wouldn’t be too happy. I think by not making attempt to stem the bleeding this past weekend they dropped the ball.
Comment by Tony — March 2, 2010 @ 7:03 pm
OK —-you tell your boss/ family everybody is going to Disney Land in july, but you know it’s rainy/ hurricane season and you get there and it rains all week. do you ask GOOFY for your money back?, and you tell your boss the vacation didn’t count because it rained, UGH—SAM G what was the question???????
Comment by jerry — March 2, 2010 @ 7:18 pm
was also up on old forge trails on saturday riding all the inner and secondary ones. found most trails choppy but oh my god trail 2 was a minefield. but for the topper: took the new trail as far as it went that will open next year that was freshly groomed and holding perfectly and what do i see at the end of the trail: a groomer with the drag attached pushing down trees like a bulldozer.
the 2-3 ft. moguls on trail 2 should have been blade cut and filled in.
Comment by markA — March 2, 2010 @ 7:38 pm
Its, ‘could have been out’ NOT could of bin out. Im sorry but i just can not take this this text messaging/ slang society anymore.
Comment by Will — March 2, 2010 @ 7:52 pm
for those of you who can not read, no one has complained about the weather. The trails conditions are in question. and for those of you who can sit here and think that every thing is great in your little world, with your don’t like it stay home attidude, take a look at the web cam and count how many sleds you see. lack of trail maintenence direclty relates to the lack revenue. another thing some of you are unable to grasp is if we don’t like it we’re not going to stay home we are going to spend our money elsewhere, so keep your citidiot attitude to your self as it may cost people their buisness’ . The town has received 100’s of calls about the conditions at least that is what they told me when I called.
Comment by Paul — March 2, 2010 @ 8:26 pm
Tony, talk to me about Tug Hill, tell me were you go, were do you eat,were do you get gas,whats that bar on Salmon river rd., what town is tuggers in,where is the lake effect in
Comment by Jack E. Monker — March 2, 2010 @ 8:35 pm
Looks as if everyone strayed from the comments which sparked this controversy…
THE TOWN PLOWED SATURDAYS SNOW OFF THE ROADS, ADDED SALT, AND SUNDAY MORNING THEY WERE TOAST BEFORE THE TEMPS WERE ABOVE FREEZING!
Comment by Sam G — March 2, 2010 @ 9:04 pm
NEWSFLASH with the temps borderline of freezing and the high moisture content of the saturdays snow the roads would have been toast even if they did not salt and plow
Comment by Jack E. Monker — March 2, 2010 @ 9:25 pm
One thing we must all agree upon. A new record has now been set for daily comments!!!!…Nice job meat heads…Get a life. (I’m sure now maybe we’ll reach 100)…bring it on punks !!!
Comment by scottyb — March 2, 2010 @ 9:26 pm
Old Forge trivia, what town was Coasters in,what town was Charlies blue jay retreat in, the former owners of Stillwater opened what restuarent in Old Forge, who was mr. Apple
Comment by Jack E. Monker — March 2, 2010 @ 9:47 pm
Hey steve,if i come up to the lake this summer can you make sure it wont rain,i spent alot of money on my boat,hotel,fuel,and travel time,oh my,get over folks,if you play you pay,as we know a bad day of snowmobiling beats any good day at work,ill be up sunday morning for breakfest and riding, hope all the fun suckers stay home. thanks for all the time you put in, Dave
Comment by DAVID PELLETIER — March 2, 2010 @ 9:48 pm
jack e inlet number 4 dan moheny muffin patch . i still talk to dan.
Comment by john ruconich — March 2, 2010 @ 9:54 pm
jack sorry farm
Comment by john ruconich — March 2, 2010 @ 10:00 pm
A real OLd Forge rider has just spoken, Dan is one hell of a nice guy
Comment by Jack E. Monker — March 2, 2010 @ 10:07 pm
Jack E I’d say what I really think about you, but in regards to Steve’s request I won’t. I don’t need to prove anything to someone with your lack of gray matter, but will indulge you. On Sunday I wasn’t leading, but basically went northwest out of Boonville after being stopped by DEC for 1 sled with no numbers. Stopped at the Nice & Easy on Rt 26 for gas and food, from there went up to where the windmills are, and next went over to the gorge (would like to sacrafice you there). Were on a lot of 4 and 7 trails with a, b, c….. take your pick after them. Went through Talbotts Corners at one point, on the way from the gorge to Brantingham we passed a car that had left a plowed road/trail and made it about 1/2 a mile down an unplowed road before burying to the frame. Tuggers is in Barnes Corners and Mr. Apple was the old owner of the Farm Rest. As for your other questions go get a life, I was there last weekend and my comments are honest observations. You don’t like it too bad for you. You sound like a resident who can’t take some honest criticism.
Comment by Tony — March 2, 2010 @ 10:24 pm
Scotty, sine you are on as much as anybody we have elected you Head meathead.
Comment by Tony — March 2, 2010 @ 10:25 pm
YEP, just as I thought,Tony your are a complete Hammer,pay attention to the blog and you would know where im from ,
Comment by Jack E. Monker — March 2, 2010 @ 10:40 pm
Jack… NEWSFLASH… Dry salted pavement Sunday morning at 7am. Justify it any way you wish. It’s just wrong, dude.
Comment by StrokerFour — March 2, 2010 @ 10:47 pm
jack 1979 big moose in 85.00 weekend meals 2 people. mountain side 75.00 glenmore16.00 a nite with breakfast. 12 foot banks and 6 inch powder on the roads!
Comment by john ruconich — March 2, 2010 @ 10:47 pm
I will reject that offer and appoint you tony as head meathead…I now dubb you Tony the Tool Bag…did’nt mommy give you enough attention as a little tony ??..Jack’s one of the few who make any sense on the blog. Jack should not be sacrificed at the gorge..all must vote on the sacrifice of Jack at tony the tool bags gorge !!!
Comment by scottyb — March 2, 2010 @ 10:49 pm
bring back 1979 john,john by any chance were you in the wayback between xmas and new years when the guy wrecked with the kid on back of sled,kid had busted ankle
Comment by Jack E. Monker — March 2, 2010 @ 11:12 pm
scottyb,guess the pa. boys will have to tame the hammer
Comment by Jack E. Monker — March 2, 2010 @ 11:17 pm
LOL!!!!!
this is almost as good as a snowball fight…na na na na na …you can’t me.
Comment by mikeman1 — March 2, 2010 @ 11:38 pm
jack yes and sbing the roads
Comment by john ruconich — March 2, 2010 @ 11:53 pm
John, after talking that night at the Wayback and seeing your posts I just had a inkling ,
Comment by Jack E. Monker — March 3, 2010 @ 9:53 am
All in all, i rode in OF this year, and I also rode in TUG HILL this year…I would prefer OF hands down..I appreciate the people of the town, their hospitality and I plan on coming up in Summer to enjoy some great golf in Thendara and Inlet…so what if the snow is gone? its gone, lets move forward as a snowmobling community and plan on:
1) SAVING OUR MONEY FROM GOV PATTERSON
2) CONTRIBUTING TO THE COFFERS OF OLD FORGE SO THEY CAN BUY AND STAFF ANOTHER GROOMER.
3) HELP STEVE BUILD A NEW WEBSITE WITH A BITCHOMETER ATTACHED AND WHEN IT GETS TOO HIGH, THAT USER GETS BOOTED!
HAHAHAHAHAHA! ok some March humor for ya’ll…settle down now and lets get back to life..
Steve, you keep doing what your doing brother..
Peace..
crayz-me-u-see
Comment by crayzalr1 — March 3, 2010 @ 5:20 pm
Yeah, love it Crazyalr1… funny stuff. And for once the B-meter doesn’t require b00bs, Or you can use B o’meter to cover b00bs and ba11s if necessary. Maybe we’ll see you in the summer, fall or winter. We love the peeps up there, if not for our businesses we’d move. Thanx Steve to a great and informative website!
Comment by melissa — March 3, 2010 @ 10:32 pm
IMpressive 84 Posts
Comment by Millionare Man — March 4, 2010 @ 4:17 pm
Thank you Melissa! LEVITY WASHES AWAY THE DULDRUMS OF EVERYDAY LIFE (and posts of ill-will and non-sensical content)
85 posts….and counting…
PS: GOV PATTERSON IS IN TROUBLE AGAIN, SCANDAL BREWING…MAYBE HE WILL LEAVE OUR SNOWMOBILE FUND ALONE WHENS HE RESIGNS?? HE BETTER OPEN HIS EYES AND TAKE A GOOD LOOK AROUND HIM AT WHATS COMING BEORE HE….oh wait a minute..ooops…
more humor..get it?
smile damnit
Crayzmeusee
Comment by CRAYZALR1 — March 4, 2010 @ 4:49 pm